October 5, 2006

Relationship Problems

Posted in Malaysia, The Cause at 10:24 pm by egalitaria

After having walked the sidewalks of Brickfields on a hot hazy day, I wonder how it is that people living side-by-side can know so little about the other. You have the various racial groups huddled together in a little country, but put a C within an I community and you stick out like a sore thumb. Worse, put a C within a conservative M area and you get stares like you’re wearing a bikini in broad daylight.

Brickfields is a hustle-and-bustle community, all sorts of smells and colours, the odd lady throwing birdseed to pigeons that scurry till the motorcycle engine roars into life and disperses them like feathers in the sky. Blaring music against trendy thickly-lined-eyed-ladies. This is a part of Malaysia that I appreciate, but why, amidst  all its diversity, do I feel alien?

It is natural for people to feel a sense of belonging amongst their own kind. Nevertheless the level of interest one takes in another community is telling of the degree of integration and assimilation into a larger society. That each community isolates itself with a set of cultural norms and values that cannot be pierced except upon forced entry (or research!) is not a good sign.

How many C’s fully appreciate the whole works of a M or I culture? And vice versa for each group. Is it skindeep friendship or are we able to ask those important life questions of our fellow neighbours without the fear of being accused as “disrupting national unity”?

Every relationship needs to be nurtured: how? By having open discussion when one is unhappy with the other, talking it out and explaining the situation till the other can understand based on fact and feeling. You do this without a hot head but in a calm, cool and collected manner. Any person with a friend or having been through a relationship will be able to tell you that. A relationship that fears to speak the truth, that cowers away behind a shield of false protection, with zipped mouths and a denial syndrome is a relationship doomed to fail.

So. Until we are ready and prepared to talk straight with the other, be open and frank in both the good and the bad things, I’m afraid that my cordiality is not a sign of unity. Indeed, the opposite is true.



  1. Sivin said,

    wow .. we’re entering the era of code names 🙂 fascinating

  2. egalitaria said,

    we’re entering the era of a lot more…
    interesting times ahead for our country 😉

  3. Leonkj said,

    I once had a convicting thought – if I claim to want to have Malay friends as a non Malay – do I even have a set of Halal dishware to have them over for dinner. It was at this point, I realized, how much effort we have to make to start breakin down barriers and being friends.

  4. Kev said,

    I think racial harmony requires sacrifice. I just feel odd eating in public during the puasa month, thinking of my Malay-fasting-friends in the sweltering haze. Being Indian, in a predominantly Chinese surrounding, I’ve grown to appreciate their customs, traditions and ethnic idiosyncrasies. Though sometimes I feel pretty left out when part of the Sunday sermon breaks into phrases of Mandarin and Cantonese with no English explanation (or subtitles). Given the time and energy, I’d like to explore more of my Indian and Malay roots.

  5. BigHeart said,

    The question once we identify the issue is HOW DO WE SOLVE IT? Who takes the first steps? But whilst we ponder of this, do remember that Brickfields has one of the best Pork Mees in town and definately super great banana leaf rices meals.

    Patrick… Enjoying Malaysia

  6. yoy said,

    Malaysia and Singapore used to be one body. Both started on par in many things, including their universities.

    Now, 40 years later, Malaysia and Singapore are different. A tale of two nations. One is declining or stuck and the other is moving forward.

    Why the stark difference? One obvious reason is the way human resources are used in Malaysia and Singapore. Another reason is accountability and transparency. Yet another reason is corruption.

    The government of one nation has tunneled vision under a coconut shell while the other has good mission and vision. One is concerned with one dominant race and the other is race-blind.

    Furthermore, one practices an officially approved apartheid policy while pretending to be a fair government that does not marginalise its citizens of certain ethnic groups. One is pretends to be global while the other is truly global.

    Malaysia and Singapore: excellent examples for historical and social analyses and studies. Also, excellent case studies in evolution: survival of the fittest.

  7. San said,

    University Malaya standard dropped the moment the UK General Medical Council stopped recognising UM medical degree. From medical, the “disease” spread to other faculties over the years.

    In fact I am waiting for past UM graduates to write more and more letters to highlight the real problems within the university. Otherwise, the vice chancellor will be in denial syndrome.

    When are we going to see such a success story and the like back here? Maybe we have to wait for another 50 years. We are 50 years back compare to Singapore University and how we are going to catch up?

    Our country is lack of strong R&D culture in all spectrums of sectors. Be it biz world, industrial, university, etc. Even MSC in the eyes of IT and property expert, it is just another “white elephant” and more on property development showcase rather than ICT.

    What can argue is to certain extent valid, but look in holistic view if IT in MSC Cyberjaya is lack R&D, then our IT sector can absorb how many IT graduates? It is not a surplus of IT graduates but the Malaysia IT sector growth is limited, thus limit the employment opportunity.

    Never compare with Singapore or western education level as our education fundamental systems are flaws from primary to tertiary level, constraint by current “third world mentality”.

    During my time, had excellent external examiners – Nobel laureate Yang Zheng Ning was one of them. We had never missed his speech each time he visited UM. I can still vividly recollect his comparison of NUS and UM students.

    Singapore students have extremely good memory. They can memorise and reproduce word-by-word text from books into their answers. UM students used their own words to answer questions. What a compliment from a Nobel Prize winner! This day will never return!

    These days when I travel overseas, I refrain from telling people where I come from, if I can – you know the reason/reasons.

    It is really sad to see all the good things gone forever. All systems in Malaysia are crumbling!

    30 – 40 years ago, if you get a place in UM, you don’t bother about going overseas. Nowadays, if you get a place in UM, it ranks behind places offered overseas, and even behind some twinning schools like Monash and Nottingham. Most of the ministers send their children to international schools, and then on to foreign universities.

    The rot has set in too deep. The situation can only be reversed over a long period of time, starting with the overhaul of our entire educational system, and the establishment of a level playing field for all Malaysians.

    If you sit in at any of the lectures, you will find it very boring, lacking, uninspiring in content and interaction.

    An extension of our school system no doubt where it is just a one way traffic and the lecturer in front just delivers or reads his notes and the students just copy whatever they can, not questioning anything and the lecturer not giving anymore or encouraging intelligent discussion.

    At exams, the lecturers give out very strong hints, even the questions themselves at times, to ensure their students pass.

    Listen in on the tutorials and you wonder what they are all talking about, very low in intellectual contents, contributions and efforts. You would wonder what our schools and universities are producing and can’t believe that you are actually at a university.

    Everyone is just going through the motions of an “education process” for three years or more picking up absolutely nothing and with their minds essentially undeveloped and unprepared for their working lives ahead.

    They graduate illiterate and useless, unable to communicate, fend and think for themselves. But they feel and think the world owes them a living.

    You will then appreciate why our “graduates” are unemployable. Only the civil service and Pak Lah want them.

    Even the education minister is sending his children overseas. It has always been the case. Local education is for the ordinary people but not for the ministers and royalties.

    Bolehland has been screwed up by a bunch of “half-past-six” for many decades, in particular our education policy, which has been permanently damaged.

    When UM was the only one university for the whole country, it was producing graduates recognized overseas. Medical degrees were recognized along with engineering, science, etc. Not so today.

    It will take several generations to undo what politicians have done to the standards and the systems for the last thirty years. That is how bad it is.

    The only thing that can reverse the sorry state of affairs in UM, and indeed in all the other universities, is the establishment of a level playing field. Have one entrance exam for all, and award places based on meritocracy. The level playing field must also extend to the teaching staff.

    Where meritocracy prevails, the cream will rise to the top. It may take years to right the wrongs of the past, but we must start implementing the process of meritocracy now if there is to be any hope at all.

  8. honyang said,

    With all complains about the brain drain etc. Sometimes you just get the impression that the Malaysia government just doesn’t bother to make any effort to retain those really bright ones.

    To build a mosque is extremely simple. To build another religion place of worship requires applications which may be delayed up to 20 years and even beyond.

    What is up with all the hypocrisy?

    Malays in Singapore are given special privileges. This is because the government is conscious that they are minority citizens. The special privileges include financial, education and even political representation.

    I scored straight As in every single exam I took in Malaysia. I topped my school year after year in every examination. I am active in extra curricular activities etc……….

    But because I am non-malay, I have not been appreciated. Another country has recognized my talents and has offered me a generous scholarship. It has been almost 9 years in this foreign country – and it has nurtured me very well. I got all my first choices. I am considering converting my citizenship. I feel very appreciated for my talents here.

    Malaysia did not help me when I needed scholarship, funding etc. The other country did and they did it generously. I can proudly say that because of the other country, I am now a very successful researcher in the life sciences field.

    I have got all As in my SPM yet I could not enter local university but one the only malay of my school was given scholarship to Japan for further studies!

    I studied STPM and not managed to enter local university to study science and surprised to find that the “hot” courses like medicine, law and engineering were taken up by many so-so result malay and lazy malay students!

    No wonder patients mistreated, houses collapse, criminals on the street!

    Thanks to Lee Kuan Yew for me to work in Singapore. It is equal opportunity here. People work hard and get rewarded and not based on race.

    Singapore has almost no nature resources vs. Malaysia, yet it has strived to become a better country in many aspects. Malaysia’s nature resources have been wasted by the lazy malays. When other people getting achievement, you ugly malays marginalised the rests.

  9. egalitaria said,

    hi there, all.

    1. firstly, the issue of compromise when in relation to other races. i do agree that there is some level of compromise needed when relating to other races. some people would not for example eat pork in front of malays. however, i think a true sign of a healthy relationship is when one is comfortable doing something despite the other’s non-participation. my vegetarian friends are comfortable with me eating meat in front of them, because they are basically Secure in their position/stand of not eating meat. my eating meat does not throw them off in any way, nor entice them.

    2. my second point is that even in cases where compromise is expected, people can bend their backs over WAY too low to ensure that the other is not offended. now, why is this necessary? all this shoe polishing and tongue scraping? don’t need to do back-breaking sucking up.

    3. the point about singapore and malaysia – differences – i will blog about soon. cheers.

  10. shinwee said,

    Why do you think we are not capable to change Malaysia?

    Umno is but a small machinery. In the past centuries, humankinds have abolished slavery, communism, Berlin Wall. We determine our destiny. We live in this system and we need to create awareness for people to wake up and change the system.

    We need to voice dissent. We need to separate the good and evil. When we criticise laziness, incompetence, fanaticism and corruption, those who are good will come out of the system.

    We then create a new system. Parties within Barisan Nasional begin to come out – MIC, MCA. Or leaders that follow the citizens cry, come out. When the good leaders are out, the party is but a wrecked evil not capable of any good and not getting the support of the people.

    We then can begin to start anew. Debate policies and build a new Malaysia.

    We are in the making of this. Already we are using forums and blogs to discuss what we want of Malaysia. When we debate this in parliament and in open forums, we will be so much closer when all the people want change.

    Change is inevitable with globalisation. If not today then tomorrow.

    We are Malaysians – we need one another and we can change Malaysia if we want it much. Let us live for Malaysia like the forefathers of Malaysia – the independence fighters who free Malaysia for the coming generations.

  11. tim said,

    Malay leaders in Malaysia like to see their folks contained in a chicken coop. They tell them that they are free and yet to be beholden to them as they are the ones providing them their feed.

    They even believe that if they left the coop, they might be eaten up by the wily fox, and that they might otherwise starve to death.

    The Singapore malays is in no illusions and they know they are out of the coop. They got to find their own nourishment and they got no leader throwing in the crumbs to them.

    If they don’t want to labour for their food, they can always go across the causeway and be given citizenship rights and take advantage of all the crumbs thrown at them. But most of them will not.

    Of course the chicken shit from there have all long crossed over. But the rest have a little more dignity and stay on to show what they are really made up of.

    I respect the Singapore malays for that. It does not matter that they have made a lot of wrong turns or that they have hardly a fighting chance. But they got more respect and dignity than their kinsfolk from over here Malaysia.

    This is what half-past-six ministers that we have in Malaysia. Even comparison between Singapore malays and Malaysian Chinese, Singapore malays are never discriminated by their government based on equality.

    I have so many Singapore malay friends from school mates, college mates to business partners. Penang malays would be so glad if they are treated like Singapore malays. Just ask the Singaporeans……….do they want to be back to Malaysia?

    The problem with the Malaysia malays is their jealous attitude. If they are left behind, they will prevent others from moving ahead too! And sometimes even sabotaging others, and some resort the use to cast spell on others.

    Not only the laid back malays are preventing their own people from being successful, but other races too. We also want the malays to be successful by creating value in the society so that everyone benefit but not by taxing the non-malays then give contracts to the malays, who will then deliver half-past-six service.

    Change your own attitude first through value creation using your own tears and sweats!

    As said before, had Malaysia been managed by Lee Kuan Yew and his colleagues for the past 40 years, Malaysia would have been much better off today, including all the malays! 95% would have owned a house, and no such rampant corruption!

    For the malay ultras, facts speak louder than your bigotry cries, wake up, grow up, be men instead of sissies!

    You see the problem here – the malays just cannot face up to their main problem – Laziness. This shows how thick-skinned and self-deluded these people are.

    Malaysia is a multi-racial country. Jika kamu tak suka, kamu boleh blar……….tiada orang larang kamu.

    The fact is malays you are the biggest loser! I am trying to wake you up instead of using the way like what our government is practice to provide NEP even though it is proven NEP is a failure in the past 30 years. Keep on dreaming if you think Malaysia could achieve Vision 2020 with your kind of attitude!

    Majority of the Penang big government contracts is being awarded to the malay firms. What else you want! They get the same as other malays in Malaysia. The only different in Penang is, the Umno guys cannot tap the government fund into their own pocket, as other state Umno did. This is the main reason why they raised this issue.

    Speaking without substances and distorting facts seems to be the good old habitual ways of Malaysia malays, which is probably inherited by their much loved masters, the “malay killers” – Umno.

    To add to this, constant distorted facts with regards to the situational state of the Singapore malays remains among the commentators of Umno. It is hard not to see that some people really need to see the situation and know it first hand before dishing out their empty vessel mentalities.

    Anyways, good thing you be it Malay, Indian, Chinese in Singapore is open to competition, and cherish diversity. Not like the radical son of terrorist we can find many in Malaysia.

    Most malays in Malaysia hate diversity and discontent to the minorities, especially the Chinese. In blog, radical malays can be either extreme or pretentiously diverse-minded. Very few is genuine.

    I do admit there are lazy malays that depend on handouts, but this kind of malays will be phase out and this kind I would say hypocrite. They tend to claim they work hard to achieve success, in fact they relaying on government support. I myself despise this kind of human being.

    Little do they realize this safety net is fast disappearing because the government is finding it increasingly difficult to maintain the system in the face of global challenges! But these handouts have become an addiction. Refuse the junkie and you get booted out of power.

    It is the malays themselves that must come to realize the damaging side effects of the NEP. For someone who wants no better than to see his own race succeed, this must be painful.

    And you can often see the malays are usually envious of not only the non-malays, but of their own successful malays as well.

    Malays failed is a fact. What make non-malays not happy about their failure is, they fail despite get ample help from the government.

    And they continue putting the blame on their fail to, especially the Malaysian Chinese. This is why created so many issue and argument here.

    But those greedy Umno guys keep emphasis the NEP, how many percent of the country wealth belong to malays. In fact, those Umno guys having super good life by easy way.

    And they keep on demanding, not really review what was wrong with it, putting the blame to non-malays, to stir the racist sentiment in the country.

    If present situation continue, even the malays get 60% of the country wealth, majority of the malays will still munch.

    Simple solution – come to Singapore and see for yourselves even if you want to guise that our Singapore malays are in lesser numbers on success than the Malaysia idiotic counterparts – our Singapore malays are based on merits and not on such keris wielding Umno policies……….are you proud of that?

    Once again, in a subtle and indirect manner, this forum has proven how naive and “katak bawah tempurung” a Malaysia malay can be. Blame who? The Umno policies.

    Yes, start collecting the achieves with regards to moral degradation among Malaysia malays. Look at the Umno ministers when they speak on national TV! Qualify or not become ministers with such low reactive capabilities?

    Some Malaysia malays saying Singapore malays quota should be more in the Singapore cabinet if compared to the Indians. First, Singapore government is based on merit system and not like you bunch of racist moron Malaysia malays here. That is why Malaysia is so backward if compared to Korea and others.

    Not many Malaysia malays can survive if they go oversea because they are slow and lazy and that is why they can’t compete with the competitive market out there. Normally they will end up hiding their head in Malaysia with the protection and biased system by the Malaysia government.

    Come on, man. We do not have time to argue the truth of your on and on talk about “not all malays are spoofed, not all malays are lazy”. Like we are dying to argue that when we already know it is true.

    It is human nature to blame everyone about their plight rather than blame themselves. The majority of new generation of malays in Singapore is educated, unlike their parents.

    Please read the comments made by Singapore malays why they can hold their heads up and be proud as a Singapore malay and then maybe it will sink into you.

    Muslims everywhere unless they are the minority, cannot tolerate people with different religions. The Singapore government handles the situation rather well as they handle their malay community with kid gloves.

  12. pang said,

    Yes, it is good that China will one day become a superpower and I am very proud of it too – as a Chinese. That goes too for India and I am glad it too will become a super power.

    By the way, don’t be a katak, many businessmen friends I have are already having trading relationships with China, Singapore etc. Most with China, it is good money there if one is careful and knows the opportunities.

    We don’t have to return there, we can go anywhere. Today is global you know. We return here for rest and visit friends.

    Most make their money and keep outside the country – you know la to help the NEP. Not to have too much money in Malaysia to be counted as non-malay assets. Otherwise how can malays catch up with thousands of overseas Malaysian Chinese earning millions!

    Mind you, many of those top graders who are working overseas are earning many times more! My own niece is making in the region of 100000 pound sterling per year at the age of only 30!

    Actually Malaysian pay is very low compared to the West just like Indonesian pay is very much lower than Malaysian. So the lucky ones are enjoying their fruits of their labour.

    It is ok, we are helping to ensure NEP a success by decrease our percentage of wealth.

  13. fargoman said,

    Chinese schools are open to all students irrespective of their ethnic and religious background – on one condition – the student must be able to cope with the workload.

    Compare grade-to-grade, Chinese school students are much more competitive and mature than national school students. They score better in various fields such as IQ, math and science.

    Most important, Chinese school students irrespective of their ethnic background are multi-lingual. Apart from their ability to read speak and write major languages such as Chinese, English and Malay – many of them also managed to master a couple Chinese dialects (e.g. Cantonese, Hokkien, Teochew, etc) they pickup from their schoolmates. Isn’t that wonderful?

    In reality, Chinese school leavers are more adapt easily and mentally prepared to globalization.

    When I was a student in the US – it is well known that Malaysians and Singaporeans are the most competitive lots among foreign students. Why?

    Sharing the same cultural background, we can speak Cantonese to Hong Kongers, speak Hokkien to Taiwanese, speak Mandarin to Chinese Mainlanders, speak English to the Mat Sallehs and other foreigners – and best of all, we speak malay among ourselves so the rest of the foreigners will not understand of our conversation.

    While I do not doubt merits of arguments from both sides, one thing is sure, Chinese schools generally produce higher performance students than national schools.

    The students from day one are coached and coached to excel in their exams with never ending homework school days and school holidays while the national schools generally are more relaxed.

    I think one have misunderstood DJZ. They do recognize the importance of English, but insist that there are better ways to go about it, such as adding an extra class in English or lengthening the existing English lessons or using the English language for the humanities.

    During the 1970s, I gave free tuition in English to my high school students (all of whom had a Chinese primary school background), and when they accompanied me to the states, they’d no problems following their courses.

    Several were even offered scholarships up to PhD level, although most started work after their basic engineering degree. Like the Koreans and the Taiwanese, their lack of an English background didn’t hinder them from becoming successful businessmen or professionals.

    One more point: I think the malay schools are also complaining about the problem of using English for math and science. Considering the level of teaching proficiency in those subjects, it would be appear to be more sensible to add more English classes or lengthen the English periods than to use the current system.

    They DJZ fear Chinese will be wiped out. If these students are to be proficient in English, they would be top achievers around, knowing Bahasa, Chinese and English unlike the malays who are only proficient in Bahasa with a little English.

    As an employer I would opt for the trilingual Chinese to the monolingual malays anytime. I may have to send him to China – the fastest growing giant of today and may be the bread and butter of many Malaysian Chinese.

    Note Chinese businessmen from China are now expanding globally and generating communities globally. Don’t miss this opportunity.

    In a very difficult environment, all Malaysian Chinese must learn to adept and not cocooned with old tradition and pride.

  14. vesewe said,

    To tell you the truth those BN blokes brains are filled with mud! They cannot see the similarity between Khairy statement and Lee Kuan Yew statement. Both bear the same meaning. Only change the name of country and race.

    Khairy said: Singapore marginalised the malays.
    Lee said: Malaysia marginalised the Chinese.

    Pak Lah, do you need an English specialist to explain to you the differences!

    I must congratulate Lee Kuan Yew who really shows our half past six government that the Chinese are marginalised here. And at the same time to tell Pak Lah that it is time to teach your son-in-law how to behave.

    This is not something new. They are God and they are also the devil. They can do all they want. I don’t care about their stupid speeches, blames or comments game. The only thing I care about is how they are driving this country down the drain.

    BN is a virus. They come and consume the land’s riches, integrity and morale. When all is gone, they spread to other areas to sustain their destructive ways. BN is a disease country cancer.

    DAP is the cure. And to use this cure, we must vote them into parliament.

    Please tell Pak Lah to restrain his dog Khairy. He is barking and pissing everyone off. Maybe Khairy is doing this on purpose to bring down Pak Lah and then grab the post for his own.

    Our leaders are all hypocrites. It is alright for them to criticise USA, Singapore, Thailand and any country they want to. But when other country criticise us they want apology. The government is really half past six and they should all resign.

    Umno is trying very hard to portray a confident and strong party. But deep inside, they are very insecure. This could be seen in the unusual behavior and conduct of their members.

  15. julee said,

    Kid, the more you asked them, the more confused they are. The education ministry ministers can’t even talk and coordinate properly within their ministry itself. So, can we still trust them to oversee matters concerning education in this country?

    A 3 years old boy can answer that. They are all sleeping like Badawi. Good for nothing. Even if we sacked him, we still get the same stupid idiot because they all come from same party and lead by a half past six president!

    Nothing will Change. 50 years over and we still do not know what is the best system for our education let along building schools!

  16. ruyom said,

    Well said, we wish you well and kindly dismiss those who question your motive or patriotism. These are the bigots whose ‘hidden agenda’ and myopic vision that is keeping this wonderful bountiful country for progressing.

    If you are emigrating for your kids education, you have made a right decision. Remember your kids will be influenced by the good and bad values overseas.

    The ideal age for emigration is 16 years old or less. That is why your kids will make it in their careers and settle down successfully overseas.

    Well done. Welcome to western culture where there are:

    1. Equal opportunity regardless or race or religion
    2. Environmental Awareness
    3. Government subsidised healthcare
    4. Government subsidised tertiary education as well as primary and secondary schools
    5. Higher quality living
    6. Protection of the labour market via enforced minimum wage across all industry sectors
    7. Social welfare standards
    8. Unconditional democracy

    In the globalization era, we are truly citizens of the world and it is no shame to relocate to ‘greener pastures’ should you have the ability and the means. Why stay in a place where there are blatant abuses, discrimination and limited prospect for those unconnected!

    Feudalistic rules are maintained to fleece the masses, where the titled and corrupted are the ‘untouchables’ but honest and hardworking citizens must bear the full brunt of the law (and taxed to the hilt).

    ‘There is more than enough to feed the world but not enough to feed the greedy.’

    If you compute the cost of sending 2 children to an oversea university (probably RM200k to RM500k), it is more cost effective to emigrate even if it paying a bit more tax or giving up a cushion job to enter into the uncharted waters.

    If you made it here with an ever-moving goal post; I don’t think it will be hard for you to find your niche in a level playing field.

    Farewell but do keep us in your prayers.

  17. samp said,

    I think Lee Kuan Yew had a point. Yes, we do have ethnic representations in our government, but the problem that lies herein is that they too are corrupt. And it not merely the non-malay politicians who are corrupt, it is all of them, malays or non-malays.

    At the end of the day, yes, non-malays are marginalised when it comes down to education quota systems, government employment contracts – that is undebateable. However they are not the only ones. It is the poorer population who are suffering.

    Malay and non-malay representations in our government is slacking. For it they are representing no one but themselves. (My Chinese counterparts, do not forget that it is not just non-malays who are emigrating. Malays too are emigrating.)

    How many times do we need to keep emphasising this: We must stand together as Malaysians and fight for all peoples rights, not just malays or non-malays.

    A voice, one said ‘Lee Luan Yew is a racist with malice intentions on the malays from long ago’. But what about our own government?

    I don’t care many about Lee Kuan Yew. But I certainly do care about our own government and leader, because what they do/say affects all Malaysians. And I am pissed off that I have racist state representatives speaking (not using the opinions of the Malaysians, but using their own fascist racist rationale) in the name of Malaysia.

    When they say there is no racial marginalisation in Malaysia, they are lying outright. When they asked Lee Kuan Yew to apologize for his racist remarks, they are being hypocrites.

    When they instill policies that favor one race over the others, when they show keris in front of audiences, when they tell other races to shut up, when they……….(ah too many examples, just fill in the blanks la), they are being racists.

    And they are publicly showing their hypocritical, lying and racist stands in the name of Malaysia!

    Fellow Malaysians, our leaders make all us Malaysians seem like hypocrites and liars and racists. That is shameful and outright unacceptable! (Plus we are getting sucked from all the policies too.)

    Let us look at the actual scenario. There are unsuccessful ones in all three major races in Malaysia. Umno supporters will project all Chinese are rich and successful. This is deceit and totally rubbish.

    There are some non-malay cronies that got rich but most improve their economic and education level without government assistance. This is hard work and sweat.

    I can’t explain and I don’t know why most malays after all the assistance from government still fail to make the mark.

    If one malay can afford to buy properties, why the discount?

    Malay or Umno still feel non-malay especially Malaysian Chinese bashing is fun and show superiority. Honestly, this show his inner inferior complex but refuse to accept. If you can’t compete even after all the grand assistance, you do bashing!

    While it is true that Arab Muslim has major contribution in science in the past – what has the malay Muslim provided?

    Remember you can discriminate and wave keris in Malaysia only. Do and try it in other countries – let us see what happen!

    Non-malays who can afford to leave or manage to leave Malaysia for countries that appreciate them better they have done extremely well to help their new found home.

    The more I look at the old man Mahathir……….I just felt sorry for him.

    Let us accept that fair and free competition will not happen in Malaysia soon. It is good. In the long run Malaysia will be left behind compare to other third world.

    It is sad and I pity Malaysia with many malays thinking Chinese bashing is the right thing even the so-called highly educated one.

    Lee Kuan Yew is great in his truthful remarks about marginalisation of Chinese in Malaysia. Contrary to what Mahathir said, he is very well respected in China, Hong Kong, Taiwan and among oversea Chinese all over the world.

    His remarks were mentioned in many international Chinese magazines/newspapers, and also news here in England. It is about time for Umno malay leaders to stop the use of outdated terms of bumi/non-bumi.

    We, the World Chinese Association is making a formal complaint to United Nations department of protection for minority rights and too China foreign minister about this issue. Don’t underestimate the influence of oversea Chinese.

    They can have Cantonese, Hokkien, Mandarin and any number of schools that they want. They are paying for them from private donations. It is their money. Malays go to school with government money, which is taxpayers money, and more than 70% – 80% of those who pay tax are Chinese – although they are only about 25% – 35% of the population.

    The international language is English and the national language is malay. If the Chinese are left out on these two languages, they suffer not the malays, so why are we so concerned whether they want to learn in Chinese, English or Malay!

    Read, words of wisdom indeed. Indeed why should one be jealous if another is willing to pay and work hard according to his wishes. Bravo!

  18. fong said,

    Singapore is a Singaporean Singapore. Read Lee Kuan Yew book from the third world to first world, then one can realise that the so many issues considered taboo in this Malaysia country are the creation of the politicians, Umno politicians to be exact.

    Obviously Singapore is unlucky to have a small land area which cannot even collect enough rain water for its own use. But modern technology allows Singapore to be independent of Malaysia and even in water supply.

    With Singapore’s success, no country should claim that multi-cultural and multi-religious citizens are a liability to the nation.

    Politicians in Singapore are people who forgo larger earnings to serve the nations public officials. Here in Malaysia, politicians fight with all dirty means including poisoning the mindset of the people to get into positions to make national wealth serve their individual desires.

    If Malaysia can be like Singapore, there would not be so many snatch thieves living on crimes. Malaysia cannot be like Singapore; but of course we can always say the grapes are sour.

  19. Kev said,

    From most of the comments here, it is evident that we (Malays and non-Malays) are enmeshed with an unfair system with unpredictable leaders who fail to communicate what they’re actually doing with the country’s direction.

    As much as we’d like to glorify Singapore’s success stories in governance, we too have to be realistic and recognise the difference of context. Running a country of 4 Million people is an entirely different ball game from managing 25 over million. Perhaps the political strength of the country can happen when large sectors of society play a compliant role in weeding out inefficiencies at all levels. Instead of highlight a problem, offer positive solutions. I think we’re more than exposed to where the leaks are in our country. Question is: anyone willing to help mend it?

    I fear that our grouses about the weak system, incapable politicians and ‘what ifs’ will only plummet into a platform for racial-bashing. That I believe becomes an impedement for any genuine progress. How can we work together when deep in our hearts we are governed with racial biases and deep insecurities about making compromises? We can perhaps pull it off, superficially, only to have the nation implode or explode with more racialistic grouses. A vicious cycle indeed.

    I’d like to propose that while we can use other countries as models for progress, we need to recognise our limitations. While we should offer a check and balance to the political administration of the country (vote for a just and equitable adminstration), we need to be accountable to our own involvement in promoting progress. Perhaps, instead of building our Great Walls of China around us, maybe we should befriend more Malays to encourage their pursuits for excellence – which will in turn benefit all other races.

    It will take two hands to clap for Malaysia to reach an equitable state – a sound government and a supportive nation.

  20. BigHeart said,

    Well Said Kev! Kudos to the idea:)

  21. egalitaria said,

    i agree with kev, but i also think that one precedes the other. you first need a sound government before you can get a supportive nation. who’s going to support an UNSOUND one?

    if your argument is correct, then the following also works:

    no sound government, no supportive nation? food for thought.

  22. BigHeart said,

    Are we back to the chicken & egg argument?

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